[QUOTE="Direct mail (yes, US Postal Service) to American Legion and VFW ......A handwritten address and an appealing photo will get your postcard at least looked at instead of thrown directly in the trash...... Pete[/QUOTE] Really good idea, old fashioned mail gets noticed now because it is so rare Search for "guerrilla marketing" for low cost/free ideas - old fashioned mail is one One of the best gorrillas is participating in forums - just be real careful not to spam them, provide some value and people will seek out your services We have got several pattern customers off the foundry forums almost accidentally, it is not my reason to be on forums, I like the McGuyver attitude people have here - just git er done