Chinese aluminium plant blows up when floodwater hits molten aluminium

Discussion in 'General foundry chat' started by Mark's castings, Jul 23, 2021.

  1. So a few days ago, an aluminium refinery flooded and the electricity was shut off and the place evacuated. The floodwaters eventually reached the furnace full of molten aluminium with the result you see on this video. I would imagine such a large scale operation would be electric rather than natural gas, so this might be the rare explosive aluminium-water chemical reaction. You can see multiple shockwaves condense atmospheric moisture so these were quite strong explosions rather than just a big fire.



     
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  2. rocco

    rocco Silver

    Yikes!! So what is the actual mechanism for an explosion like that? Does the molten aluminum strip the oxygen from steam creating free hydrogen which then fuels the explosion?
     

  3. Aluminium is very chemically reactive and just like potassium, sodium and certain other metals explode when thrown in water, aluminium can do the same in theory. The video below has some discussion of it from a chemical viewpoint and also tries to create such an explosion. There's more discussion elsewhere on this forum too.

     
  4. rocco

    rocco Silver

    That's what made me suggest the mechanism that I did. The explosion you see with a sodium and water reaction is in fact a hydrogen explosion. The sodium strips the oxygen from the water in a reaction that forms sodium hydroxide and hydrogen gas, the hydroxide goes into solution with the excess water, the overall reaction is exothermic and if the conditions are appropriate, that heat will ignite the hydrogen gas causing an explosion.
     
  5. There's definitely hydrogen being burnt in the reaction but there appears to be electrons also being released in great quantity which makes the donor atoms positive and fiercely repulsive generating a coulombic explosion as well. Thunderfoot, the guy who made the aluminium explosion video has written a scientific paper based on one of his Youtube videos of alkali metals in water.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coulomb_explosion
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Silver

    It seems funny that at smaller scales (home foundry) we don't see this reaction? We just see steam explosions?
    Robert
     
  7. That safety film showing an explosion at the 12:35 minute mark in post number 3 is well within the realms of the home foundry.
     
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  8. Robert

    Robert Silver

    I am not sure what is happening there (12:35)? It looks like aluminum dripping into water and then a steam explosion? There is no flash or flame to suggest a chemical detonation? I wonder if the coulomb explosion only occurs with really hot aluminum and we just don't get to those temps. There are plenty of videos of people pouring melted aluminum into water. I suspect aluminum at 2500 deg F is a different animal.
    Robert
     

  9. Ok I'll restate what the man in the video said: aluminium readily forms an oxide layer which prevents the explosive reaction, this oxide layer is easily disturbed in molten aluminium. The explosion shown in the foundry safety video didn't occur when the pouring height was one metre into the steel box full of water. This allowed an oxide skin to form over the molten aluminium, when they lowered the crucible much closer to the water the explosion then occurred. The degreed chemistry researcher in the video also pointed out that it was dumb luck that the multitude of people pouring molten aluminium into water didn't get a coulombic explosion.
     
  10. Robert

    Robert Silver

    Thanks Mark. Not trying to be argumentative. I am just trying to understand some real world observations. Clearly something other than a steam explosion was happening at that Chinese plant!
    Robert
     
  11. It's a hard concept to wrap your head around as much physics as chemistry: bulk ionize a group of atoms and they explosively repel each other. You can chemically do this with aluminium in water or you can do it with physic by hitting an atom of uranium 235 with a slow neutron to form two charged atoms of barium and krypton and 200 mega electron volts of energy. Nuclear fission is another example of a coulombic explosion just done with atomic physics instead of chemically.
     
  12. Petee716

    Petee716 Gold Banner Member

  13. Robert

    Robert Silver

    Great video! That explains a lot.
     
  14. Bigstack D (Edit: Some other youtuber's video) has an interesting accident while pouring copper into ice water, it's some sort of steam explosion and I wonder if the ice somehow helped the explosion or if it would occur at all without the ice water. Does the ice chunks help confine the steam?.

     
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  15. Al2O3

    Al2O3 Administrator Staff Member

    Pouring molten copper into a bucket of ice water.....what could possibly go wrong??? I saw that a year ago. The actual steam explosion video and aftermath are linked in the video description.

    He's incredibly lucky he wasnt more seriously injurred than he was or even killed. It could be the molten copper folded around some ice or even just some water, or perhaps the mass of copper became critical and once settled in the bottom, the liquid on top quickly superheats......but once that happens......BOOM!

    He's one of these YT guys that makes vids for clicks. He seemed contrite in the aftermath. For his sake I hope he found religion.

    Best,
    Kelly
     
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  16. I wasn't paying attention and didn't realize it was some other person with the explosion. There's what looks like a pool of molten metal on the bucket floor after the explosion. He started with a bucket full of ice and topped it off with water so it would result in a semi solid chunk of slurry.


     
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  17. Melterskelter

    Melterskelter Gold Banner Member

    I am sure glad the guy used PPE —-sort of! And wore shorts, picked up the crucible with a plier, stood right over the crucible as he poured molten metal onto ice and then had the good sense to hose off the burns on his shins post eruption. That was an impressive kerpow! Scary. Could have been so much worse.

    Like the old saying says “you can put water on molten metal but not molten metal on water.” Good demo.

    Denis
     
  18. Al2O3

    Al2O3 Administrator Staff Member

    Mark's post caused me to re-watch that video, which in itself caused me to take pause since it's the only video the guy has with signifcant views, and that's what he was after when he nearly killed himself. Besides the resulting shrapnel the open faced bucket was reduced to, it was notable how long it took for the debris to start raining back down and the duration which that continued. It was like a shallowly drafted shape charge....straight up.

    Best,
    Kelly
     
  19. Melterskelter

    Melterskelter Gold Banner Member

    Yes, had the seam on that bucket been oriented at 180° from where it was it could easily have sliced him severely. That was one of the dumbest stunts I’ve seen in a long long time.

    Denis
     
  20. Regarding the PPE, I would hope the leather apron extension and maybe the welding spats I wear would have stopped the sheetmetal fragments. The shin injury looked like it was caused by bucket fragments rather than a burn, he also stepped on the remains of the molten copper as he ran off in panic. Obviously if you do random things with incandescent molten metal you'll get random results. Reference.com says the water to steam expansion is 1:1700 so you'd only need a spoonful of water to convert to steam to get the result in the video.
     
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