PLA as good as wax?

Discussion in 'Lost PLA casting' started by Scott K., Sep 16, 2017.

  1. Scott K.

    Scott K. Copper

    So I have been slowly making everything needed for lost wax casting, and just joined the forum today. I have finished the electric forge, vacuum pump, vacuum tank and flask, crucible tongs, and halfway done with the burnout oven. I just started trying to print with printable wax, but it's not working very well. My local guy gave me a couple samples, and I'm having a hard time getting good prints. So I see people doing lost PLA, but I have read online that PLA doesn't burn out as cleanly. Is this true? Or is it not bad enough to worry about? Should I keep trying the wax, or just say 'screw it' and use PLA?
    Thanks for any advice. And keep in mind, I'm a complete newb at this. I have never casted anything before, but am hoping to be able to do my first cast in a few weeks.
     
  2. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    PLA burns out perfectly clean, no worries there. The down side to pla is that it expands when heated and the investment likes to fracture at blind hole areas. What is it you would like to cast up as a 3d print?
    Welcome to the forum :) we have a bunch of lost wax guys here to aid you through your journey ....
     
  3. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    Dude, you live up the street from me!! Im here in stanton
     
  4. Tobho Mott

    Tobho Mott Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    Welcome Scott. You're in luck! David is a lost PLA guy, sounds like maybe he'd even let you drop in and have a look (if you promise not to give Jason his address). :)

    Jeff
     
  5. Scott K.

    Scott K. Copper

    Cool. You may be who the guy that runs the print shop near me told me about. I'm drawing a blank on his name, but he mentioned that there was a local guy doing lost PLA. I'm actually a couple miles from Newark (toward Wilmington) off of kirkwood hwy.

    I have been a model maker (hobby not career) for years, and have always wanted to do castings. I just finally got around to making the stuff. So I don't really have a particular thing in mind to cast, but there have been plenty of previous projects that I wish I could have done castings for.

    The tongs I made feel good for me, but they are made to be easy to use with my forge. If I ever get a deeper or bigger forge, the tongs may be too short to reach the crucible comfortably.

    I'm sure I'll be here (in the forum) quite often as I start to actually melt metal and pour. I'll also post some threads on the other equiptment I made. But if anybody sees anything potentially wrong with anything I post, even wrong terminology, please let me know. Like I said, I'm new to all of this, but want to learn as much as possible.

    Thanks,
    Scott
     
  6. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    Yes Scott I'm the guy Matt at printed solid was referring to.... What kind of models are you making? Im curious to see.
    Couple miles from Newark?? Im here by bankshots in stanton, know where that is??
     
  7. Scott K.

    Scott K. Copper

    Yep, it's Matt. I'm bad about remembering names. Very nice guy and has been a huge help for me with my printer. It's a folgertech prusa i3 with a Titan extruder and e3d hot end.

    I do just about anything. Plastic model kit, scratch build models, rc helicopter, planes, cars, custom made whatever anybody wants me to make for them, etc. I have a website, but don't know if a forum is an appropriate place to self promote. I do have a few ideas for future projects: 1/3 scale Ducati, r/c 1/8 scale Erickson sky-crane, the sword of omens,,,. All of which I could use castings.

    I think I know where bank shots is. Sounds familiar. I'm sure I've driven by it a hundred times.
     
  8. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    Scott your more then welcome to put a link in your signature to your website, go ahead and post it up, inquiring minds want to know :)
     
  9. Scott K.

    Scott K. Copper

    Ok, but keep in mind that I am by no means a website designer. I know it looks dated and, well, not good. And I honestly haven't touched it in a very long time. But feel free to check it out.
     
  10. Scott K.

    Scott K. Copper

    This is the last commissioned project I made for a client in Germany. It's 1/48 scale of the aircraft he maintains for the BMW flight department. I forgot to get a pic of it on its base, but all the lights work.
     

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  11. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    site looks fine. doesn't look dated either.. Lots of detail on the 750 bike..
     
  12. Scott K.

    Scott K. Copper

    Thanks, I appreciate that. Yea, one of these days I'll actually finish that 750.
     
  13. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    You do cad modeling as well?? what is your choice of software?
     
  14. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    All it takes is time...
     
  15. Scott K.

    Scott K. Copper

    I have been using SketchUp for many years. I actually drew that aircraft with it. But I just downloaded fusion 360. I have not played around with it much yet, but it looks much better than SketchUp. Once I figure it out.
     
  16. Scott K.

    Scott K. Copper

    So you're close to gooddeals? I go there all the time. One of my favorite places. That and fazios.
     
  17. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    I used to hit the fazzio in NJ, Back in the day,it was awesome. The one here in DE, not so much. The one in NJ has really dried up too. I used to be able to buy huge block like 4' x 3' for scrap metal prices from the NJ site but now a days they want top dollar for rusted bolts...

    Good deals is an interesting spot (yep right up the street) I have found quite a few things there to "repurpose" LOL
     
  18. Scott K.

    Scott K. Copper

    Yea, fazios isn't as good as they used to be, but I got enough material to make a vacuum pot and a couple of flasks for $25. And had material left over.

    The sprue base is 3d printed in ninja flex. I put the file on thingiverse. And, yes, I painted the flask. Yes, I know it won't last with the abuse, but it is high temp paint, and I really don't expect the paint to last. I'm just trying to prolong the rust as long as possible. If I'm successful in this casting stuff, I'll buy a real one.
     

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  19. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    Going the vac assist route....Good choice!! takes alot of the hassles out of things, and gives better surface finishes.
     
  20. Scott K.

    Scott K. Copper

    I'm trying my best to do it right the first time. I can't believe how many people on YouTube take the laziest shortcuts and use the wrong tools and procedures.
     

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