Looks similar to the one with the suspicipus picture that I linked, but that was $17/500g and this one is $50. My question hasn't showed up on their website yet. If it's the right stuff, 500g of bentone is only enough to mix with a little over 18# of silica though, going by the recipe on Ray's site. What are people paying online for petrobond? Jeff
I've got a line on Bore-Gel but I think its just bentonite with xanthum based on the patent. The distributor is checking with Baroid. Its $12.99 for a 50lb bag. Its bentonite, sodium salt and xanthum. Likely the wrong stuff, I'll talk to Baroid tech sales. https://patents.google.com/patent/US5723416A/en
We may have a winner. The distributor is checking to see if it the same as VG-69. Only downside is the warehouse is in Monahans, TX (west texas) but they may be able to get it in Houston. This is the company that Denis mentioned earlier. https://theofmp.com/ofmp/en/USD/Drilling/Fluids/p/M0001629-1-3?vendor=miswaco& brand=federal Its a Schlumberger sourced product repackaged through Federal. No idea yet what makes it advanced vs VG-69. https://www.slb.com/drilling/drilli...scosifiers/vg-plus-advanced-organophilic-clay
The oilfield marketplace. https://theofmp.com/ofmp/en/USD/Drilling/Fluids/p/M0001629-1-3?vendor=miswaco& brand=federal The VG Plus is not the same as VG 69 but no one can tell me what makes it different. I think we get a couple sacks and try it. I can order it and get in Houston or you can grab it in Monahans. They'll sell single sacks.
I've got a call in to get a bag or two here and we can do the same in Monahans. Who wants to test this stuff?
OFMP checked. Nothing in Houston or Monahans but they've got it in Shreveport. Anyone closer than Houston/Dallas? On a different note, the K-Bond recipe says 100 mesh or finer. Would 325 have venting problems? I've got 50 lbs of 325 from a ceramics store.
I would be interested in mixing up a test batch if someone could send, say, ten pounds or so in a Flat Rate to me. Denis
I'm hearing 56bucks a bag. Mark at rmi is sending a link to me where it can be bought. Seems too cheap to me.
I'm checking on shipping from Shreveport but I'll likely drive up to get several sacks. I can send you a box of it Denis. About 15lbs will fit into a flat rate box for $21 in shipping. The link for ordering is here: https://theofmp.com/ofmp/en/USD/Drilling/Fluids/p/M0001629-1-1?vendor=miswaco&brand=federal The price on the website is $54/sack.
That price is about right, I think. Thank you! I’ll reimburse you for the clay and shipping. If anyone wants to ship more in the future, look at UPS Simple rate where up to 1 cu foot can be shipped at a good price. Denis
That stuff sounds like ersatz Delft Clay - which, based on vids I've seen, needs scratch vents. Also, it uses a higher percentage of binder. I think I might want twice as much of the other things per weight of "sand". It also gives lost-wax detail, supposedly. Thought might be to use 200 mesh along with the 325? I recall one individual mixing his Delft Clay with Petrobond to help with permeability issues. Seems he had less trouble that way with little loss of detail.
I think I get it after watching a couple of videos. It'd be way too impermeable if mixed with binder, even with coarser sand mixed in.
Using plain petrobond and a quick and dirty 5 minute trial: Not saying I have mastered by any means. But it does suggest this is doable with ordinary materials. Denis
do you Know what GFN that sand is? it looks awful course for Petrobond. is it perhaps made with Olivine sand rather the Silica? Ive seen that Thanks in advance HT1
