Wax piston sprue extruder?

Discussion in 'Lost wax casting' started by Zapins, May 21, 2018.

  1. FishbonzWV

    FishbonzWV Silver Banner Member

    You tested the output @93v dc. The jog/run switch is just two pins attached to the PC board. That one is not configured with the reverse switch.
    If the motor doesn’t turn with a battery, pull it apart and check the wires to the brushes. Clean, bright, and tight is the mantra when dealing with DC voltage.
     
  2. Zapins

    Zapins Gold

    Couldn't find the exact circuit board diagram. But I found one model up. I posted the link to it a few posts back.

    Will test the motor directly when I get home with the battery charger to see if it works
     
  3. Zapins

    Zapins Gold

    So the motor works when powered by the dc car battery charger. So the controller isn't working.

    I'm going to try buy a new fuse for the speed controller and see if it works.

    Might have to buy another controller if it doesn't work. Would a 400 watt capable controller work for the 1/2 hp motor?
     
  4. Zapins

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  5. ddmckee54

    ddmckee54 Silver

  6. rocco

    rocco Silver

  7. Zapins

    Zapins Gold

    Good to know.

    I have used the kbic-120 before but they seem to have trippled in price recently which is why I was after alternatives. I guess I can keep an eye out for a good price and snag one.

    I still don't know why the controller I have isn't working. It looks to be in perfect condition. I can't see why it shouldn't work.
     
  8. FishbonzWV

    FishbonzWV Silver Banner Member

    I dug into my Controller, these are new units and are not completely wired.
    The wires coming from the speed control pot and from the Run/Jog secondary contacts are just tucked into the shrink tubing.
    I pulled them out and started troubleshooting the TB2 terminal.
    I found +10vDC on pin 7 so it looks like the Pot hooks to pins 6,7,8.
    The Run/Jog secondaries, I don't know.
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    The schematic for a newer unit shows a pick path(red box) for relay K using the Run/Jog secondaries. This allows a remote start/restart and the contacts(blue box) of relay K enable the controller. The Run/Jog wires would go here.
    What I can't figure out is what terminals to put the Run/Jog wires on.
    We need the correct schematic for the 2301P1 controller. I can't find one.
    If anyone reading this has a 2301 controller in use, go pop the top off and take a picture. :D
    Terminal 3 has +60VDC on it
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    Last edited: Nov 1, 2022
  9. ddmckee54

    ddmckee54 Silver

    When I looked up the manual on-line the impression that I got was that these schematics work for all of the 2300 and 2600 series drives.

    The way I read that schematic, terminals 8&9 on TB2 are your drive enable signal. The way it's shown I would assume that the run/jog switch would be maintained in the "run" position, and momentary in the "jog" position with a spring return to "off".

    The normally open K0 contact between terminals 10&11 on TB2 would be for feedback to the outside world that the drive was "running", or at least enabled.

    You'll need to ring out the connections to the switch (Check the continuity with a multi-meter) to verify that they are connected to the switch like the print says they should be. Then hook them up to terminals 8&9 as shown. A simple way to check if the drive actually works would be to jumper terminal 8 to terminal 9. If you do that, when you power up the drive the motor should go.

    Don
     
  10. FishbonzWV

    FishbonzWV Silver Banner Member

    TB2 only has 8 terminals and they are not configured like the schematic for the 2600.
    Normally the Run switch is always on. That gives operation of the controller to the relay and the contacts close to enable the controller.
    An example would be a conveyor system with a head or tail end sensor tied into the pick line of the relay.
     
  11. ddmckee54

    ddmckee54 Silver

    Thought I had a lead to a 2300 manual on Scribd, turned out to be the 2600 manual - AGAIN. Hope you get this thing working, they look to be a fairly high-end drive.

    Don
     
  12. Zapins

    Zapins Gold

    I'm still a bit stumped as to whats happening. When I measure across the armature leads I get 93v but it doesn't seem to be sensing power to the motor? Maybe the switch/variable knob is somehow miss wired and isn't letting power through?
     
  13. FishbonzWV

    FishbonzWV Silver Banner Member

    Zap, the wires are tucked into the shrink wrap. Pull them out.
    I'm still trying to find a schematic.
     
  14. Zapins

    Zapins Gold

    D'oh!

    I just saw what you were saying above. Yes mine are tucked as well bot connected. No wonder it didn't turn on rofl.

    But yeah that diagram isn't very clear on where they all need to go. Hmm.
     
  15. ddmckee54

    ddmckee54 Silver

    OK, I tried to find the Fincor Electronics Division that made the drive, but it looks like they have probably folded. The last website update was 2014 and the phone numbers that I found listed for them are a no-go.

    I see that Radwell has a Fincor 2301 P1 DC drive listed for $1400. I reached out to my local Radwell rep and asked him to find out if they by any chance have the manuals for that drive.

    Don
     
  16. FishbonzWV

    FishbonzWV Silver Banner Member

    I found a site that is a repair shop that had one listed as repaired and tested. Filled out an inquiry and sent. Don’t know if they’ll respond.
     
  17. ddmckee54

    ddmckee54 Silver

    Yeah, with any luck we'll be able to find a photocopy of a photocopy of the manual - just not a scanned version.
     
  18. FishbonzWV

    FishbonzWV Silver Banner Member

  19. Zapins

    Zapins Gold

    Last edited: Nov 3, 2022
  20. FishbonzWV

    FishbonzWV Silver Banner Member

    That question was addressed in post #288.
    "I found +10vDC on pin 7 so it looks like the Pot hooks to pins 6,7,8."
     

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