Do (or have) any of you folks deal with Carpenter Brothers? They are based out of Milwaukee and looks like they are primarily here in the mid-west/rust belt. If so, any suggestions? I have had a hard time even trying to figure out how to get in touch with the local(ish) folks in Grand Rapids. I remember a few years back when I was shopping for refractory, it was a PITA finding out what they had in stock and a price ... I finally found someplace else that stock refractory. Even with quite a few foundries around west Michigan, they are the only supply house around (actually bought up a couple other supply houses and shut them down over time). There is a couple in Detroit area ... but that is 3 hrs one way.