Molding Benches

Discussion in 'Foundry tools and flasks' started by Rocketman, Feb 12, 2019.

  1. Rocketman

    Rocketman Silver Banner Member

    I've secured a substantial shop space. I have been setting up the machine shop side of things, and have my foundry partially moved in. It's time for a molding bench - I'd like to build something nice. I have a few ideas, but could use some inspiration.

    Show me what you got?! lol.
     
  2. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    Cant help on that one... I just use the top of the table saw :oops:
     
  3. Rocketman

    Rocketman Silver Banner Member

    That's funny. My old molding bench was an old home-made wood table for a 6" craftsman jointer that I pulled off, and threw a piece of plywood onto.
     
  4. ESC

    ESC Silver Banner Member

    I use a mud sink I salvaged from a job. Probably holds 150 lbs of sand and I mold on the drain side with a couple of 2x3 's to hold the molding board up enough so the pins don't hit. Traditionally an open tub, with ledges for supports, was the standard. What I lack is the ability to top load the heap and then draw from the bottom the way the old molding benches were set up.
     
  5. FishbonzWV

    FishbonzWV Silver Banner Member

    My bench is a fiberglass clothes folding table from a laundromat.
    I covered the top with a $20 slab of marble (I think it was a pisser divider) from a Habitat Restore.
    The sand bin is the Pepsi container beside it. I do the mold breakouts into a wheelbarrow.
    I'm quite comfortable with the setup.

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  6. HT1

    HT1 Gold Banner Member

    here is My bench, it's a sand storage box lined with galvanized flashing . it's simply dimensional lumber. Mosty 2X8 I think I had to rip 2 Boards, I have a 3/8 top, which makes it a great, Very Sturdy work surface when Not molding , it's against a wall with Peg board behind it so all tools are handy, the Molding surface is simply a pair of 2X4 put down a molding board or your Matchboard your are working right over your sand, so any overflow drops right into the sand Bin, the Bin is is split , thee is a small section on the right for facing, it is a piece of 3/8 plywood and a couple of pieces of 3/4 to hold it off the side wall, the sand in the bin holds the ply in place till the bin is empty. works wonderful, stout as can be, not going to move it full, barely move it empty

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  7. joe yard

    joe yard Silver

  8. I built my bench through ignorance, but it works well. Looking at the above link I must have seen a copy of Gingery's bench, as I seem to remember the picture.
    Mine is a waferboard box with 2x4 frame and a 3/4" plywood lid.

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    It is lined with galvanized flashing but it soon started rusting so I added some scrap 1/2" yellow plexiglass I got from a sign. The bottom of the lid has foam weather seal and everything is caulked. It holds the moisture very well over weeks.
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  9. Tobho Mott

    Tobho Mott Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    Mine's half of a plastic barrel cut lengthwise, built in to a wooden frame. It has a hinged plywood lid to keep the critters out, which doesn't keep the moisture in as well as I'd hoped, and I need to stop using it as a workbench because there's always a bunch of tools and shavings all over it when it's time to make a mold.

    Jeff
     
  10. Jason

    Jason Gold

    Nice to see I'm not the only one that uses the top of my table saw as a work bench!:oops:
     
  11. Rocketman

    Rocketman Silver Banner Member

    Thanks guys, that'll give me somewhere to start.

    Also found these pictures of a MIFCO molding bench on eBay. Clever system they have with independent swinging supports, looks like they can slide lengthwise too.
    How important do you find the sand storage below the molding surface? Do you keep your mulled sand there or just a storage bin? I don't care about retaining moisture, I have that nice Simpson muller and I'm used to adding water every time I run sand anyway. I have been storing my sand in ~30 gallon plastic drums, I was going to keep doing this but I am re-thinking that now.
    I have acquired an old steel wheelbarrow for shakeout as well.
     

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  12. Melterskelter

    Melterskelter Gold Banner Member

    16B2392E-6CBA-4B5E-B798-0DB1B5DE8218.jpeg BDE13FEB-5267-4E35-92BE-740B9A3042B8.jpeg E50133C9-A096-44D7-B264-74E26BF6F4EB.jpeg Mine is just a plywood and 2x4 bench about 50” long with a steel sheet on its working surface and a vertical back to keep the sand from falling off the back. I use an overhead trolley and chain hoist as my molds for one casting are 350 pounds and another is 150 pounds plus. I like using the hoist and trolley for lighter molds too as it really makes turning and closing molds gently and accurately more easily done. The trolley is barn door rail hardware.

    I keep my sand in 5 gal buckets under the table.

    Denis
     
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  13. Rocketman

    Rocketman Silver Banner Member

    As luck would have it, I get to skip designing and building something for the time being.
    I asked at work and they had this cabinet / workbench that was no longer needed, and will become my interim molding bench.

    There's some storage underneath, and I figure I'll continue to keep my sand in the blue bins and use this for pattern & tool storage.
    If this does not prove sufficient I'll be making something. Thanks guys!

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  14. Rocketman

    Rocketman Silver Banner Member

    Denis,
    That's an impressive mold handling setup there. That's some big stuff! Are those the molds for your straight edge castings?
     
  15. Tobho Mott

    Tobho Mott Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    On a good day I will shake out molds in my wheelbarrow, take it straight to the muller, mix some water back into it, dump it back into the wheelbarrow, scoop it into 5 gallon buckets, and haul it back to dump into the molding bench.

    To answer your question, I find it really handy to have a bunch of sand in the bin ready to use right where I need it, so much nicer than turning and scooping sand out of a bucket that is off to the side, which only happens when I'm too lazy to transfer the sand from wheelbarrow to buckets to bin first, or when I am using some of my old (finer-grained) sand for facing.

    But since I don't cast metal every day or even every week, I sometimes dump the mulled sand into a steel drum I can seal up, so it doesn't dry out completely before I use it again.

    I think one of my barrels actually has just the shaken out sand from the last mold I poured in it, since it was getting late and I didn't want to start up the muller in the dark. That sand was actually a touch wet when I used it if I recall correctly, so maybe it will just need to go into the muller for a minute or three without any extra water, since the molten bronze will have dried it out a little.

    I'll find out how good the seal on that barrel is when spring comes and there's some reason to open it up again, I guess.

    Jeff
     
  16. Rocketman:

    That cabinet even has an excellent label on the front. I need to put that on my bench.:rolleyes:
     
  17. Melterskelter

    Melterskelter Gold Banner Member

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    Yes, the 36” casting requires 5.5 five gallon buckets of sand. So the sand plus steel flasks weigh about 350 pounds. The 18” takes about 3 buckets.(It’s an 18 shown) Both require very careful separation of cope from drag that has to be done keeping the cope positively level. That’s where that little strut that attaches to the front of the cope helps by preventing rocking of the cope as I hoist it off the drag and pattern.
    The spreader arm allows the lifting bars to be positioned anywhere on the horizontal square bar to accomadate various sizes of molds. Pins (bolts actually)on the end of the flasks and a piece that can span the two bolts has its own pin so that the hoist can flip cope or drag or lift and move laterally the assembled mold. Quite handy and necessary for my work. But, having used it, I would not be without it even if only doing 50 pounders.

    Denis

    PS: That bench is a great score. Looks very sturdy and I too like the stenciled sign.

    PPS I added a photo that shows the pins and the 36” SE flasks
     
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  18. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    Now thats a flask!
     
  19. Melterskelter

    Melterskelter Gold Banner Member

    Yo
    You might notice that there is room on the cross bar for a longer one. That’s cuz the next pattern and flask will be for a 48” SE. I think that combo will be 450 pounds or so. Not planning anything bigger than that. As it is, since I work solo, rolling the 36 up the slight grade to the pouring area require most of my strength and good traction. I suspect I may need a small riding mower to pull the 48 to the pouring area.

    Denis
     
  20. Melterskelter

    Melterskelter Gold Banner Member

    7BF0B330-AF3E-47F9-A5D9-A90C2B5870A6.jpeg Here is a pic of the piece that the two bolt/pins hold to allow lifting and turning of the mold.
    It has a side benefit of helping to keep the cope and drag closed during a pour. I use the same system on the wood flasks.
     
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