Play which one is neutral game

Discussion in 'General foundry chat' started by Jason, Oct 25, 2018.

  1. Jason

    Jason Gold

    Pop quiz brainiacs.. Please look at the photo and tell me which group of wires do I connect the neutral.. Many thanks. I am wiring 220 single phase so use the top diagram.

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  2. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    You need to double check your o2 supply, think you might have been deprived for a few hours.
     
  3. Jason

    Jason Gold

    ??? I've had a 12hr day... what am I missing?
     
  4. Petee716

    Petee716 Gold Banner Member

    I don't think a 3ph motor takes a neutral but I may learn something here.

    Pete
     
  5. Jason

    Jason Gold

    This motor WAS wired single phase with a neutral. Someone wired it behind my back to run 3phase. Now I get the joy of converting it back. I have 2 hots, a neutral and a ground. The ground is through the case. I'm connecting into the three reds on the bottom. So 2 hots and a neutral.


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  6. Jason

    Jason Gold

    I had it working fine last year on 220, but cant remember for the life of me how it was wired and the guy that screwed with it didn't bother to write it down or put it back the way he found it.
     
  7. Jason

    Jason Gold

    If I have 3 phase 220, I would have another wire right? As it stands, I only have 3 and a ground. I know normally I would have a phase converter, but we dont. wtf am I not seeing?
     
  8. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    Typically a 3ph motor does not like to start on single phase especially if there is a load on it
    What's this motor going to run??
     
  9. Jason

    Jason Gold

    Hydraulic mule... I had this thing running on this plug last year.
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  10. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    Grab your volt meter and check each one of those plugs to ground.
    Is this in your house???
     
  11. Jason

    Jason Gold

    No.. Large airplane hangar. good idea. I'm on it.
     
  12. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    And don't think that just because that one wire is white that it is a neutral.
     
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  13. Jason

    Jason Gold

    I measure each of the three and got 120 on all three.
     
  14. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    Yep...
     
  15. Jason

    Jason Gold

    Words to live by. She works like a champ and spins the right direction. (got dumb lucky on that one)
    Thanks guys.
     
  16. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    Lol..
    Stay away from swiss built machinery!! Green is not ground!! :eek::eek:
     
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  17. I'm of the understanding that there's no need for the neutral wire to be connected: if the motor is running properly there should be no current flow in the neutral anyway. I could be wrong but I don't think VFD's even have a neutral to connect.
     
  18. PatJ

    PatJ Silver

    Looks to me like your outlet is 3-phase.
    I am not aware of any 3-phase motor that would work plugged into a 1-phase outlet, no matter how you wire it.

    Three-phase motors do not use the neutral.
    And single-phase nominal 230v motors do not use the neutral either.

    The only motor that would use a neutral is a 120v motor.
     
  19. Jason

    Jason Gold

    I gotta say, first time I've ever seen a 3phase 220 hole in the wall. Wish I could have that in my friggen garage! Learn something new everyday.
     
  20. DavidF

    DavidF Administrator Staff Member Banner Member

    Me too, and 460 3ph...
     

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